Comments on: Y http://www.cbmused.com/2008/04/29/y/ Living the Martini Life Sat, 11 Oct 2008 02:42:24 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Cléa http://www.cbmused.com/2008/04/29/y/#comment-1238 Cléa Mon, 05 May 2008 06:14:32 +0000 http://www.cbmused.com/?p=160#comment-1238 <b>Gboy:</b> Like you, I've worked with both Gen Y and Gen X who just get the job done, hence the last sentence of my post. With what you describe, Gen Y ask for it and expect it to be given to them. Gen X don't always expect it as a given, and I think that's where the difference in attitude is. Let's see what the current economic climate will do to them, with high interest rates and cost of living. But wait....wouldn't their mums and dads pay for it? Gboy: Like you, I’ve worked with both Gen Y and Gen X who just get the job done, hence the last sentence of my post.

With what you describe, Gen Y ask for it and expect it to be given to them. Gen X don’t always expect it as a given, and I think that’s where the difference in attitude is.

Let’s see what the current economic climate will do to them, with high interest rates and cost of living. But wait….wouldn’t their mums and dads pay for it?

]]> By: gboy http://www.cbmused.com/2008/04/29/y/#comment-1236 gboy Mon, 05 May 2008 03:47:23 +0000 http://www.cbmused.com/?p=160#comment-1236 Hmmmm.... I really dunno where to start replying to this... I'll just say it's something VERY close to my heart and a topic I have given a great deal of thought. I feel so many of the "prescribed" Gen-x attributes keenly, but at the same time, I am surrounded by several exemplary examples of Gen-Y. I think there is a big difference though, in that Gen-Y don't feel as if Gen-X is in control of their lives. On the contrary... they seem to see us as a bunch of whiners insistant on blaming the Baby Boomers for not achieving all the things in life we dreamt of - when they instead just ask for it. In a way, I can sort of empathise. BUT, given most Gen-Y'ers came of of school or Uni and stepped into a climate of high employment, low inflation, and affordable comfy lifestyle, their view is bound to be skewed. They haven't seen rates at 17%. They haven't seen highly qualified former execs in suits and ties standing in the queue at Centerlink alongside spotty, dishevelled dope smoking dropouts. I shoveled shit and fixed people's cars for 2 years, because despite my newly acquired qualifications, no-one was hiring. But it was no shock... I did it before I studied and I always believed things would pick up. I didn't like it, but I coped. I'll be very interested to stand on the sidelines and see how the FaceSpace generation respond when they inevtiably are faced with the same issues - while carrying a $300,000 mortgage, zero savings, and $20,000 worth of unpaid for gadgets and furniture on the VISA card. If it as I suspect, they'll chew up the budget surplus at a rate hitherto unhread of. Now, who encouraged them to spend like that? Hmmmm…. I really dunno where to start replying to this… I’ll just say it’s something VERY close to my heart and a topic I have given a great deal of thought. I feel so many of the “prescribed” Gen-x attributes keenly, but at the same time, I am surrounded by several exemplary examples of Gen-Y. I think there is a big difference though, in that Gen-Y don’t feel as if Gen-X is in control of their lives. On the contrary… they seem to see us as a bunch of whiners insistant on blaming the Baby Boomers for not achieving all the things in life we dreamt of - when they instead just ask for it. In a way, I can sort of empathise.

BUT, given most Gen-Y’ers came of of school or Uni and stepped into a climate of high employment, low inflation, and affordable comfy lifestyle, their view is bound to be skewed. They haven’t seen rates at 17%. They haven’t seen highly qualified former execs in suits and ties standing in the queue at Centerlink alongside spotty, dishevelled dope smoking dropouts. I shoveled shit and fixed people’s cars for 2 years, because despite my newly acquired qualifications, no-one was hiring. But it was no shock… I did it before I studied and I always believed things would pick up. I didn’t like it, but I coped.

I’ll be very interested to stand on the sidelines and see how the FaceSpace generation respond when they inevtiably are faced with the same issues - while carrying a $300,000 mortgage, zero savings, and $20,000 worth of unpaid for gadgets and furniture on the VISA card. If it as I suspect, they’ll chew up the budget surplus at a rate hitherto unhread of. Now, who encouraged them to spend like that?

]]> By: Cléa http://www.cbmused.com/2008/04/29/y/#comment-1212 Cléa Thu, 01 May 2008 22:31:57 +0000 http://www.cbmused.com/?p=160#comment-1212 <b>Sicilian:</b> I'm the same in that I don't identify with generations in the workforce, but with work ethics. And I've worked with various age groups without labelling them, it's all on their performance, aptitude and attitude to work and change. As for the kids out of school, I'm tolerant to fashions and styles even when I don't like them, but what I find in your face is the young women's (girls - they're girls!) fashions being way too sexual. And they wear it in the workforce. Sicilian: I’m the same in that I don’t identify with generations in the workforce, but with work ethics. And I’ve worked with various age groups without labelling them, it’s all on their performance, aptitude and attitude to work and change. As for the kids out of school, I’m tolerant to fashions and styles even when I don’t like them, but what I find in your face is the young women’s (girls - they’re girls!) fashions being way too sexual. And they wear it in the workforce.

]]> By: Sicilian Mama http://www.cbmused.com/2008/04/29/y/#comment-1209 Sicilian Mama Thu, 01 May 2008 14:39:58 +0000 http://www.cbmused.com/?p=160#comment-1209 <i>"What they need is a haircut, a swift kick in the ass, a real job, and some real f***in’ music like Vic Damone, Frank Sinatra or Jerry Vale. Wait–I’ve become my parents…"</i> Zen Wizard totally read my mind. Seriously - you have no idea how many rants I have had about those damn haircuts some of these boys have. Ridonk! And the skinny jeans? So not awesome or flattering. No, but seriously...I hate how there is this divide between people in the workforce based on what generation they are supposedly in. I kind of consider myself in between...I'm not really X and I'm not really Y. I'm me, dammit. And while I can't even begin to fathom demanding my work bend to my demands (like so many of the kids starting right out of school are doing) and I will adapt to how things already are, I also believe that change is necessary for any business to continue to thrive. But not many people are like that...they are either on one side or the other and that is where the labels come in and it's really too bad. “What they need is a haircut, a swift kick in the ass, a real job, and some real f***in’ music like Vic Damone, Frank Sinatra or Jerry Vale.

Wait–I’ve become my parents…”

Zen Wizard totally read my mind. Seriously - you have no idea how many rants I have had about those damn haircuts some of these boys have. Ridonk! And the skinny jeans? So not awesome or flattering.

No, but seriously…I hate how there is this divide between people in the workforce based on what generation they are supposedly in. I kind of consider myself in between…I’m not really X and I’m not really Y. I’m me, dammit. And while I can’t even begin to fathom demanding my work bend to my demands (like so many of the kids starting right out of school are doing) and I will adapt to how things already are, I also believe that change is necessary for any business to continue to thrive. But not many people are like that…they are either on one side or the other and that is where the labels come in and it’s really too bad.

]]> By: Cléa http://www.cbmused.com/2008/04/29/y/#comment-1207 Cléa Thu, 01 May 2008 12:17:05 +0000 http://www.cbmused.com/?p=160#comment-1207 <b>Egan:</b> Work. Work. Facebook addictive, worse than blogs. Mind you, I just can't get into it. Egan: Work. Work. Facebook addictive, worse than blogs. Mind you, I just can’t get into it.

]]> By: egan http://www.cbmused.com/2008/04/29/y/#comment-1205 egan Thu, 01 May 2008 07:40:43 +0000 http://www.cbmused.com/?p=160#comment-1205 Does not compute. Does not compute. Must have Facebook. Facebook owns me. Does not compute. Does not compute. Must have Facebook. Facebook owns me.

]]> By: Cléa http://www.cbmused.com/2008/04/29/y/#comment-1201 Cléa Wed, 30 Apr 2008 23:17:44 +0000 http://www.cbmused.com/?p=160#comment-1201 <b>Casey:</b> Bourbon to you is what Martini is to me, not fancy, just the plain old dry Vodka Martini. With an olive. So cheers to my first ping. I'm no longer a trackback virgin. <b>Zen:</b> Um... no. You need better marketing, so going back to your comment no 9, 'Diaries of a Spank Bank'. Now I'm going to hell. Casey: Bourbon to you is what Martini is to me, not fancy, just the plain old dry Vodka Martini. With an olive. So cheers to my first ping. I’m no longer a trackback virgin.

Zen: Um… no. You need better marketing, so going back to your comment no 9, ‘Diaries of a Spank Bank’.
Now I’m going to hell.

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